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Italian language categorization question

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Moderator der Fragenfinder
Joined: 16.09.2014
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Domanda su testi calabresi. Which language should these be classified under? E' meglio mettere questi canzoni con dialetti del sud, o con Siciliano?

Moderator sapiens sapiens
Joined: 05.04.2012

@Hampsicora, @DarkJoshua, @Stefano8, @Raniero

I'm not a fluent or a native Italian speaker, but judging by Wikipedia's article on said language, I guess it could fit an entry of its own, like it happens with Neapolitan, Sicilian and Sardinian. Maybe native opinions would be of more help.

Moderator der Fragenfinder
Joined: 16.09.2014

I think there has been some discussion on it before, but i think that is before there was a Southern Dialects category for italian

Editor in search of Anningan & Malina
Joined: 10.05.2012

Could you link any lyrics? It's hard to tell because you could do either way. Depending on where you come from in Calabria, you could either speak a dialect of Neapolitan (categorised as Southern Italian dialects) or a dialect of Sicilian. I think you should use the Southern Italian dialect category, just to be on the safe side. But again, it depends on the song...

Moderator der Fragenfinder
Joined: 16.09.2014

Calabrisella mia is an example. Also la canzone del ciuccio.

I think sicilian was recommended to me once.

You're not Calabrian by chance, are you?

Editor in search of Anningan & Malina
Joined: 10.05.2012

Sadly I am not. I actually have yet to see a Calabrian user on here.
Who suggested Sicilian? You could reach out to them for more infos if they know more than I do.
From what I could see, "la canzone del ciuccio" is Sicilian. See those words ending in "U"? Tipically Sicilian.
"Calabisella mia" would be best categorised in Southern dialects, unless someone more competent than me says otherwise. The Sicilian influence is noticeable though.

Italian "dialects" are a tricky topic because they haven't got clearly defined border, but they constitute a dialect continuum, therefore they're quite hard to classify and categorise in general.

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Joined: 02.08.2014

I’m not a great expert of Italian dialects but I’d say that both songs belong to the Sicilian dialectal group, so most likely they are in Calabrian or in some other southernmost Italian dialect (moreover Otello Profazio is Calabrian).
But it isn't so easy to distinguish Sicilian from the other southernmost dialects, they are quite similar and only a native speaker can notice their slight differences.

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Joined: 02.08.2014

You may ask lylaphoenix or nedsclifford or some other Sicilian member https://lyricstranslate.com/en/members/none/0/1000225/0/0

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Joined: 12.06.2011

I'm not Clabrian too, but I'm quite sure that Calabrian dialect is different from Sicilian dialect, so they belong to two different categories.

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